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Post by redmist on May 11, 2008 21:41:05 GMT -6
Are you saying that your father would let you use inferior equipment in the field. And if so, why did you take an unproven weapon into battle?
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Post by ECHIV on May 12, 2008 9:38:34 GMT -6
I never let other people touch my ramrod, or load my powder. But then again, that's just me.
We are talking about hunting aren't we?
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Post by redmist on May 12, 2008 14:10:50 GMT -6
Still talking about hunting. I wouldn't jump to the other subject on this site.
I don't let anyone else load mine either. I even load my spare myself when someone else is using it. Bad things could happen when explosive substances are in the mix. When I was a kid I saw an octagonal barrel split like a banana peel and rip the thumb off of the guy shooting it. My parents told me he had been saying that it doesn't matter how much powder is used because only about 100 grains burns before the bullet leaves the barrel. With this geniosity in mind he filled the barrel about 4 inches from the muzzle, seated the bullet, and demonstrated why not to mess arround with black powder. He kinda looks like the mad bomber from "Speed" now. Needless to say, he was wrong and overfilling could cost life or limb, so don't do it.
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Post by ECHIV on May 13, 2008 18:26:23 GMT -6
I reload metallic cartridges. I am much slower than people I know because I am so paranoid about undercharging or overcharging a load. It is a lot of fun but you have to be careful. I have yet to have an accident and take measures to keep it that way. I used to mess around with 12 gauge shells when I was a kid but kid when we started splitting the brass on some low brass loads. 1 3/8 ounce of 7.5 shot is deadly on dove/quail but could be hazardous to the shooter as well.
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Post by redmist on May 13, 2008 21:07:35 GMT -6
I never got into reloading. I've read quite a bit about it, but don't trust myself. I like fast moving ammo and may press the issue enough to end up in the hospital.
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Post by thecoleman on May 15, 2008 21:29:34 GMT -6
yea you have been shot enough and it was the first time i had went powder hunting and your father was trying to help
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Post by ECHIV on May 16, 2008 8:12:32 GMT -6
yea you have been shot enough and it was the first time i had went powder hunting and your father was trying to help Sounds like Sibling Rivalry carried just a little too far. Remember, It's always fun till somebody winds up with a limp for life, then it's a lawsuit. On the speed issue, I ALWAYS stay inside the guidelines of the recipe books for reloading. There is a real sense of satisfaction I get from knowing how involved I was in the whole process. Plus I know what the bullet is going to do from the moment I pull the trigger until impact with the animal.
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Post by redmist on May 16, 2008 15:51:12 GMT -6
I research and shoot so called factory loads. The ones I choose are faster that most in the same caliber, plus they retain accuracy. All except my panther. In it I use 168 grain SBHP at 2700 fps to match the bullet drop compensator I use.
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Post by thecoleman on May 18, 2008 20:38:00 GMT -6
he already has a limp and there was a lawsuit
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Post by redmist on May 20, 2008 5:42:57 GMT -6
Not a real lawsuit. Just a minor workers comp issue.
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Post by ECHIV on May 20, 2008 9:07:45 GMT -6
I research and shoot so called factory loads. The ones I choose are faster that most in the same caliber, plus they retain accuracy. All except my panther. In it I use 168 grain SBHP at 2700 fps to match the bullet drop compensator I use. Is that a .308? That is my favorite caliber and one that I have the most experience reloading. You know you can go to the ammo manufacturers website and get a detail of the components and load data. From there it is a simple thing to duplicate the load on a press and save $$.
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Post by apexpredator on May 20, 2008 21:30:40 GMT -6
I reload for my rifles I shoot the most. 220 SWIFT, AND 30-06. Thats the two I do the most but have bought dies for a couple others. Believe me it pays for the equipment in no time. I have a automated thrower hooked to a digital scale. All you have to do is type in desired grains and presto match grade ammo in no time. The down side to factory ammo (other than price) is that they are overly cautious about pressure which limits there velocities. The use of different powders can increase muzzle velocities without unsafe pressure increases. But ALWAYS stay under the max charge rates. Pressure is a nasty thing to tamper with. Also remember speed isnt every thing. Given the choice between speed and accuracy thats a no brainer. It doesnt matter how fast it is if it doesnt hit the Mark.(or Mathew, Luke, or John for that matter.
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Post by redmist on May 21, 2008 6:09:39 GMT -6
I research and shoot so called factory loads. The ones I choose are faster that most in the same caliber, plus they retain accuracy. All except my panther. In it I use 168 grain SBHP at 2700 fps to match the bullet drop compensator I use. Is that a .308? That is my favorite caliber and one that I have the most experience reloading. You know you can go to the ammo manufacturers website and get a detail of the components and load data. From there it is a simple thing to duplicate the load on a press and save $$. It is a .308 and right now I get Lake City Match Grade ammo for free. I love them. I get a 2.6 inch, 10 shot group at 500 yards with a semi-auto. I reckon that's pretty good. I'm not gonna complain.
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Post by ECHIV on May 21, 2008 8:55:13 GMT -6
I really like some of the handloads I crank out on my RCBS Pardner Press. It is a slow single stage jobber but I hand measure the powder and get good consistnecy. I don't load as many as apexpredator or I would upgrade. I have never shot at 500 yards. I'm not sure I could see that far and only have a 4x scope. At 100 yards I can shoot 5 shots into an inch group. It's the first one that counts though. The last 2 deer I shot were at 23 and 50 paces respectively.
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Post by redmist on May 24, 2008 15:44:58 GMT -6
I was set up for a 400+ yard shot and ended up harvesting the biggest deer of my life from under 30 yards in the other direction. If conditions are right I'll pass on smaller deer just to take a long shot, but only if I know it's a one shot kill.
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Post by ECHIV on May 25, 2008 19:09:17 GMT -6
I don't know if I can see 400 yards.
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Post by redmist on May 25, 2008 23:01:14 GMT -6
That's why leupold is my close friend.
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Post by thecoleman on May 26, 2008 4:31:52 GMT -6
you should give me your bearclaw
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Post by apexpredator on May 26, 2008 16:48:33 GMT -6
you should give me your bearclaw What does delicious pastries have to do with anything
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Post by redmist on May 26, 2008 20:41:06 GMT -6
you should give me your bearclaw What does delicious pastries have to do with anything I was wondering the same thing.
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